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Surf's Up March 25, 2014 at 10:36 pm
Mindfulness, is in fact a Buddhist, not Christian term of art relating to mindful meditation.Read More Practiced for thousands of years prior to the birth of Jesus Christ. It is wonderful if Mary Baker Eddy co-opted this term, but their is scant scholarship that she actually did. Your religious zeal is wonderful - but again, you need to be honest as to the sources.
Surf's Up January 20, 2014 at 11:45 am
Mr. Ingwerson, the “fear” a patient has when being diagnosed with a pre-cancerousRead More condition has little to no correlation with that patient seeking out “unneeded” treatments. What you are trying again to do – and you do it so badly – is make an argument that people should forgo seeking medical help for valid illnesses and instead rely totally on god and prayer. Then you go further and do something despicable - you blame sick people for causing their own illnesses because they didn’t possess a positive attitude or think in the same way as you do. The Mary Baker Eddy quote you provided, that “sickness is belief, a latent fear, made manifest on the body in different forms of fear or disease” is pure utter garbage. An infant, child or happy adult does not manifest cancer or heart disease. As you have done with every other other Christian Science fluff public relations piece you write, you blame those afflicted for causing their own maladies. That is both mean-spirited and a medieval way of thinking. And, when you mention Mary Baker Eddy, you might also place her words in context with her deeds. Ms. Eddy did not actually practice what you say she preached. Ms. Eddy gave her grandchildren vaccines and paid for her sister-in-laws mastectomy because it was good science. Why don’t you ever talk about that in your junk-science articles? You also keep calling Mary Baker Eddy a theologian; in what bizarre cousin intermarrying banjo-playing universe – did Ms. Eddy ascend to that role? A theologian is term of art, a designation based on scholarship, advanced study in a particular discipline. Ms. Eddy was a leader of a Christian movement, a religious leader, not a theologian. Mr. Ingwerson - it is important for ethics to play a definitive role in the teaching of spirituality. Why aren’t you ethical?
Sunrise January 23, 2014 at 12:08 pm
Surf’s Up: I agree with Ingwerson. There is compelling evidence that fear and other emotionsRead More affect health. I feel those making health care decisions should know that. Ingwerson is not saying the spiritual approach to health care is the answer for everyone but that there are other effective non-medical alternatives people should be aware of as they consider their health care. People should seek medical care if that is the form of health care in which they have the greatest confidence, but it is only ethical that they be made aware that there are other viable alternatives advocated by respected members of the medical community. The research findings and experiences of these medical professionals are leading them to conclude that “a way to stem and dissolve fear is to encourage a patient’s spiritual identity.” Although many Americans are still unaware that the Western approach to health care characterized by medicine, technology, and surgery is not the only alternative available, those now choosing complementary and alternative health care methods has grown to nearly 40 percent. By far the most used of those alternatives is prayer. Rather than blaming individuals for what they think, I see Ingwerson’s comments as a valuable reminder that what is going on in the individual consciousness is the primary determinant of our health and happiness. As the cancer researcher cited by Ingwerson , Dr. Norton, says, “…to take care of someone’s body and not their soul is not to take care of them fully.” I am less interested in whether Mary Baker Eddy is considered a “theologian” than I am in what this pioneer spiritual thinker’s teachings and writings have meant to me and my family. I am 77 years of age, used less than a week’s sick leave over a 45 year career, had one physical when I entered the Army, have never taken medicine, never been in a hospital, play tennis 3 times a week, and am a consultant working throughout the world. I look for results from my personal and religious convictions. I like what I am getting, especially in terms of my mental and physical health. “For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the Lord;” (Jeremiah 30:17)
Surf's Up January 23, 2014 at 09:25 pm
Sunrise - you are a fellow Christian Scientist. Why didn't you just say that? You are partisan. YouRead More have "never taken medicine" and "never been to a hospital." That is your experience and I honor it. If you read over my critiques, Mr. Don Ingwerson has stated in many articles that he eschews medicine and science over belief. And, he has repeatedly said people's illnesses were attributed to their lack of belief. You and Mr. Ingwerson are entitled to your faith. However, when proselytizing others - one still has to tell the truth. Especially when quoting other people's works, things must be kept in context. I have shown repeatedly that Mr. Ingwerson has misquoted people and made connections that the original source would never agree to. Sunrise, your frame of mind and good health are a testament to your faith. As to the definition of "theologian" - all I can say is how would you feel if some person said they were a military veteran, but had never been in military service. If you were a soldier, a naval officer, or a reservist - you might take umbrage with the self-characterization. It is insulting. Why, because they didn't go to boot camp, they didn't pay their dues or serve their country. Mary Baker Eddy was a leader of a religious movement. But, a theologian? Please. That is just an other bit of Don Ingwerson puffery.
Surf's Up December 20, 2013 at 09:28 pm
Mr. Ingwerson - you continue to commit that great literary sin - you defraud with misstatements. TheRead More current article about a meeting with Coach Roy Gessford was not happenstance - it is simply a fabricated public relations piece to sell your friend's book. Coach Roy Gessford was not at a “community meeting" where you both discussed spirituality and healthy lifestyles. It was at a “religious meeting”. Mr. Ingwerson, for some reason you continue to make material omissions of fact in your articles (thinly veiled public relations pieces) that promote Christian Science. You refuse to be candid – and this time, failed to disclose that Coach Roy Gessford was a devout Christian Scientist like yourself. When you write an article that goes out to the general public - a "community meeting" has a certain connotation. It is nonsectarian; say a senior center or a community recreation hall. Had you said the encounter occurred at a "religious community center" one that caters to your faith - Christian Science – there is a good chance the general public would have taken the information provided with a grain of salt. So instead of taking that risk, you gilded the lily and changed the context to be more palatable to the general public. This entire article was to help sell your friends book. There is nothing wrong with promoting a fellow Christian Scientist’s book – but please stop with all the subterfuge. Honesty is always the best policy. You may not play tennis, but you continue to play games without seeing the whole point of creating an inner consciousness.
lotsahelp December 12, 2013 at 07:51 am
I have always taught my kid that only boring people get bored. There are just too many things to doRead More or things to occupy ones brain to be "bored".
TT December 12, 2013 at 08:33 am
Very interesting read. I always thought recreational drug use to be the hobby of bored people.
Surf's Up December 17, 2013 at 11:06 am
Mr. Ingwerson - the spelling of the writer's name you cite is Marc Lerner not MarcRead More "Learner". And, he has not conducted any studies with regard to boredom. Mr. Lerner is a writer whose subjects deal with fighting illness and adversity using a spiritual approach. It is should also be noted that the term "spirituality" does not refer strictly to Christendom. It is a universal concept. It encompasses many aspects of various religions and cultural practices. So, you are aware Mr. Lerner is actually Jewish. As to your biblical suggestion, there is no absolutely no connection between Jesus’ command to take heed and be spiritually attentive and a resilience to resist the slide into 'boredom". Boredom is more of a modern era issue - where people have copious amounts of free time. Please provide the biblical passages which show where Jesus makes the connections you describe. Be specific and show correlation. Boredom may lead into situations you aver - however, this is based upon your observation and belief. It is problematic when you create facts or use cites - that are clearly out of context. This invites scrutiny.
Surf's Up December 3, 2013 at 08:02 pm
Mr Gordon, I can go line by line in Mr. Ingwerson's article to show a lack of scholarship or factRead More attribution. A journalist or blogger cannot portray a fact by simply saying - a person in a hospital "appeared to have" some ailment. It is not reasonable. Most doctors know regularly recognized and diagnosed medical conditions. Perhaps not the cause - but the medical diagnosis would be plain. In Mr. Ingwerson's article, he mention's being in an ER with a young man who appeared to have had a "massive heart attack". Medical science knows when a massive heart attack has occurred. It is an area of science with a long history of success in testing, diagnosis and treatment. One indicia of a massive attack would be heart tissue damage... etc. Yet, Mr. Ingwerson somehow has no definitive knowledge about the diagnosis. How can that be? At the same time Mr. Ingwerson is certain the young man is "essentially dead" with a "5% chance of having any meaningful neurological recovery." I am sorry, there are neurological and physiological tests that determine brain wave activity and brain damage. Again, I am not talking about diagnosing the cause of an illness - just determining if damage has occurred. This example of prayer in action by Mr. Ingwerson - lacks almost complete foundation in fact. It is more like a fairly tale or children's story. Were this a story told among friends, I would give the teller a great deal of latitude. I might even be amazed. However, here Mr. Ingwerson is writing a piece in a online paper meant to influence others. He is talking about truth and quoting facts and a factional situation. Yet, his story lacks credibility. It is mostly conclusion, no accountability of any type. None. This is not the first time Mr. Ingwerson has written in this inartful fashion. Every article of his - misquotes scholarly texts, and makes conclusions based on unproven observations that the author claims are facts.
James Gordon December 3, 2013 at 11:37 pm
Surf's Up: Your comment is reasoned and specific in order to make your point. It is everythingRead More that Jim B.'s comment was not. His initial comment was the verbal equivalent of a monkey throwing feces. Again, I am not an advocate for prayer.
Surf's Up December 8, 2013 at 10:04 pm
I will readily admit I am troubled that Mr. Ingwerson habitually conflates opinion as fact and citesRead More out-of-context information as proof of his own belief system. This once superintendent of the Los Angeles County Office of Education, an office serving 84 school districts knows what the term scholarship means. He just chooses not to apply that standard to his own writing or advice he gives others. The reason I am so vociferous in my posts - has to do with the dissemination of opinions asserted as fact - which the public may rely on, while forgoing medical attention. Many people, intelligent people adopt "magical thinking" when faced with life threatening illnesses. Steve Jobs is the most recent and notable example. Instead of choosing medical treatment for a low stage pancreatic cancer - the Apple company founder opted for non-traditional (i.e. medically unproven treatments), the cancer progressed, metasticized and Steve Jobs died. Needlessly. I do believe in prayer and meditation when confronting an illness. However, I believe it foolhardy to hamstring oneself by having to adopt an either/or proposition. Proven medical care and medical treatments work hand-in-hand with spiritual and mind based approaches.
greg Chick November 16, 2013 at 07:26 am
At, Surf, I think you miss the points being made, and are being either /or in regards to yourRead More limits of thought. Please consider I am not suggesting your points are not correct, they are. A "greater" understanding of things is not everyones cup of tea. Or better yet, art is in the eye of the beholder, and at this point the study of somethings is called art until the bell curve is satisfied.
Surf's Up November 16, 2013 at 11:40 pm
Well Chick - we are much more than the sum of our parts. We are spirits in the material world.Read More Beings that still reside in corporeal bodies. So, when speeding down say Angeles Crest Highway in your car - use the brakes or see what it's like when flesh and bone go airborne then meet the side of the mountain. Spirituality does not need supplant physics or science. Look at poor Steve Jobs - giving up medical care for a mild form of pancreatic cancer. He used "magic thinking" - a lot like Mr. Ingwerson. The only difference is that Mr. Ingwerson makes stuff up and diligently works to impose his nonsense on others. If Mr. Ingwerson withheld medical treatment for minor children the way he advocates for himself and others - he'd be subject to criminal prosecution.
Surf's Up November 19, 2013 at 08:45 am
Each of us can believe in miracles - but even Mary Baker Eddy vaccinated her two grandchildren andRead More paid for a mastectomy for her sister in law. So Ms. Eddy incorporated a lot more science, than naive Mr. Ingwerson would lead us believe. Check wikipedia or a number of biographies on Mary Baker Eddy. It's one thing to eschew science theoretically, it's quite another to actually live by that principle. Ms. Eddy chose to vaccinate and to treat breast cancer (it is unclear what the tumor was) using medical science - why do you suppose she did that? Because Ms. Eddy wanted the best outcome for her family members. Advocating prayer is wonderful - but if we know important laws of nature and science (many we don't), we either abide by them or fall prey to violations of them. Sitting in a row boat at sea in a storm, by all means pray for safe passage - but also paddle like heck - because if you ignore common sense (science) - nothing can save you.
Surf's Up November 7, 2013 at 01:07 pm
It should be noted, that of course a good attitude adds towards the quality of life. However, Mr.Read More Ingwerson fails repeatedly to address this this - that there are good people with wonderful attitudes who die of illness. I knew many with cancer and other illnesses who were the salt of the earth, the epitome of positiveness who died young. They did nothing wrong.
Gary Gorlick December 26, 2013 at 08:55 am
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/25/us/new-hampshire-holiday-tragedy/index.html?c=homepage-t Looks likeRead More all this hockum on positive thinking is a sad Joke!
Surf's Up December 27, 2013 at 04:08 pm
Mr. Ingwerson - where are you when people pose the tough questions?
Surf's Up November 6, 2013 at 11:04 am
The basket metaphor - does not prove why we should go to church. It proves that while trying to doRead More one task, another result may happen. It is not a profound metaphor - but as inferred, a childlike metaphor. Similarly, it is one thing to say that religious involvement/commitment plays a "beneficial role" in illness recovery. However, it is another when Mr. Ingwerson does what he has in other articles - simply make stuff up. In this article the writer claims his cites show a "strong relationship between health and religious commitment." This simply isn't true. Being "beneficial" is not the same as having "strong relationship." One term means it helps, the other term means it is near essential. It must also be noted that very religious people have serious health issues. Based on Mr. Ingwerson's arguments - it equates the waning of pious individual's religious commitment with disease or illness growth. I grow weary of Mr. Ingwerson repeatedly blaming people with illness or disease for their apparent lack of faith. It is mean spirited. The writer's pollyanna approach has no real world value for most. Of course their are spontaneous remissions - that could relate to faith. And faith could be in a myriad of religions, or I imagine personal conviction in family, love. Yet, all these remissions statistically anomalous.
nonoise November 9, 2013 at 08:18 am
Religion is meant as a means on controlling people. Just look at the members of Divine SaviourRead More Catholic church, 90065. They think their soul rest in having their noisy amplified sound system. The church members and the catholic neighbors cannot even speak up against the church noisy sound system or their soul may be put in danger of going to hell, so they say. Even Los Angeles Times Writer Steve Lopez mentioned that in his article about them. Google it. Recommend
nonoise January 19, 2014 at 07:58 am
Stop the noise. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/noise-quality-life-complaint-nyc-21584373
Dave Zaccagnino September 21, 2013 at 08:12 am
I volunteer at the Inland Valley Humane Society in Pomona and always feel wonderful after I'm doneRead More doing laundry, giving the puppies and cats water and food, and cleaning-up whatever/whenever/wherever something needs to be cleaned-up. It warms my heart that, though filling-up an empty water bowl is not the most magnificent/benevolent act ever, doing something so small and simple could truly make a dog or cat's day much brighter and less depressing than if I had NOT volunteered at that moment. Volunteering truly does benefit the person who volunteers almost as much as the one who benefited from the volunteer's act of kindness/generosity. I cannot recommend volunteering more highly; the world needs more of us!!
Surf's Up September 25, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Just to clarify - the Matthew 6:33 quote which relates to seeking the kingdom of God and hisRead More righteousness - is accomplished by following God's will, not our own. God's will could mean volunteering for tasks that we don't personally like, or even situations we personally don't feel qualified for. Our comfort zone is not the deciding factor when volunteering for God. While Mr. Ingwerson's article is interesting, he kind of misses the point. Sure, we feel better when we play to our strengths or training when volunteering - but that does not mean it is where God wants us to be. Based on Matthew 6:33, the Kingdom Of God and his righteousness are by definition something that men and women must concede to, not the other way around. The lesson is not dovetailing our strengths with a volunteer position which we "feel" suits us. If you believe in Matthew 6:33, God is not our servant, we are his. Mr. Ingwerson seems to omit this concept entirely from his article.
Surf's Up September 9, 2013 at 03:56 pm
Your articles and the ideas expressed therein remind me of a popular parable told by priests andRead More rabbis to their parishioners. It seems a very devout person was drowning in the Pacific ocean after his pleasure craft capsized. Holding onto a life preserver, the man watched as boat after boat passed him by. With each passing, ships captains and deck hands would yell "we will rescue you!" The man however, yelled back - "no, God will save me!" After 5 hours of this - the man grew too tired, let go of the life preserver and drowned. Arriving moments later at the gates of heaven - the man asked God - "Why did you forsake me and allow me to drown?" God replied - "Why did you allow yourself to be drowned. I sent you messenger after messenger to save you!" The parable exemplifies the problem with relying just on a spiritual approach to maintain good health. Man (and woman) have spiritual, medical and other resources for a reason. Each is part of God's universe to be relied upon.
Critical Thinker September 10, 2013 at 05:33 am
Great resources for real versus faux health information for those who don't yet know or deny theRead More dangers of CAM: Science Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org Quack Watch http://www.quackwatch.org What's the Harm? http://whatstheharm.net/
Surf's Up September 10, 2013 at 10:08 pm
The problem with complimentary and alternative medicine is often it is not predicated on science orRead More reason. Don Ingwerson, while well meaning - encourages readers of his articles to forgo medical treatment in exchange for engaging in prayer and faith to cure medical ailments. This is unfortunate. In Mr. Ingwerson's world, the retired educator would have us believe that a dire illness like Stage IV Lung Cancer can be cured through divine intervention - if we pray earnestly enough. Proven scientific principles like gravity are not negotiable. They are part of the immutable laws of nature. Utilizing prayer and science to combat illness is not mutually exclusive. Rather it makes a lot of sense.
Martha King August 23, 2013 at 07:28 am
Don, I enjoyed reading your blog post and while I don't know a lot about the practice of ChristianRead More Science, I do strongly believe in the connection between body, mind and spirit. As a breast cancer survivor I have seen it in action. I'm sorry to see that the previous two comments were negative which is not a contribution to open discourse.
Jeffe' August 24, 2013 at 11:26 am
I'm sorry to see the previous comment simply brush off another comment that was contributing to openRead More discourse, and not negative. After an accident I think even the most unusual of us would prefer a bystander to apply a tourniquet or perform CPR if needed rather than kneeling and whispering to the sky. That said, how you take care of yourself is one thing, but never ever rely on magic when other folks health is on the line or you may end up in jail prison. http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2013/april/faith-healing-couple-lets-another-child-die.html
Surf's Up August 25, 2013 at 03:26 pm
Don, there are number of problems with your article. I am afraid, there is no scholarship in theRead More making of your claims. You cherry pick a specific article to support some idea. However, this is not considered remotely scientific nor borne of academic works. What scientists, professors and all doctors of philosophy (PhDs) do is “compare and contrast”. They compare and contrast various ideas – including those that compliment their theories and those that oppose them. To a scholar, truth is not partisan, it is just truth – borne by facts and proof. What each of your blogs does is provide a conclusion – then supports it with a handpicked article or some anecdotal story. That is not scholarship – it is personal opinion; an editorial. It is perfectly fine to call what you do - faith – but it is clearly nothing that resembles science in the modern world. In medieval times, perhaps – but thank goodness we are alive today. Your story about tearing off your cast, a few days after a terrible fall, but well prior to medical advisement – was a foolhardy action. As an adult, even a college-aged one however - it was your decision to make. As you did not have an x-ray taken and the doctor placed your arm in the cast “for observation”, it was doubtful you had any broken bones. How can I say that? Because you provided no medical evidence that the bone was broken. Rest assured, had you removed your son or daughter’s cast a day or two after they had a terrible fall – child protective services would have taken the neglected child out of your custody. The removal of the cast would have been considered unreasonable, against medically necessary treatment and advice. Again, you were privileged to remove your own cast, but society would affirmatively estop you from harming a child through willful ignorance or neglect – no matter how well meaning you claim to be. Your posts keep talking about “science” – yet you eschew any adherence to scientific or medical principles…. No, that is inaccurate. You rely on science when it clearly serves your own interest. For instance, you do not try to oppose the laws of gravity or centrifugal force. It you really believed in opposing empirical knowledge over faith – I’d try walking out over the Grand Canyon. That as we know – is never going to happen. God provided physical laws of the universe for a reason. Science does not oppose Gods laws; it works with them.
Surf's Up August 26, 2013 at 09:03 am
Don - it is good to see that you are expanding beyond Christian Science and now embrace those thatRead More no longer believe in it's teachings. Richard Bach, the author of Jonathan Livingston Seagull was once a Christian Scientist... then he moved on. Here is his quote on religion, "A name is a label, and as soon as there is a label, the ideas disappear and out comes label-worship and label-bashing, and instead of living by a theme of ideas, people begin dying for labels... and the last thing the world needs is another religion.”
Surf's Up August 26, 2013 at 09:10 am
That is not to say that Christian Science is wrong or a bad practice. To the contrary. Rather, Mr.Read More Bach recognized the need to go directly to principles over religion. It would be helpful if others also embraced "ideas" over "dogma." Ideas require using critical thinking to prove or dismiss their worth. This takes the ability to examine a myriad of ideas - those that support one's train of thought and others that might contradict it. In your articles - you only provide articles that support your ideas, I wonder why that is?
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marsha cunningham August 20, 2013 at 12:20 am
On second thought, what you say is true but the article does not say differently. If I understandRead More it correctly the blog is saying, that according to scientific research their findings have a correlation to what the blogger is saying about his experience, and that's called a meeting of the minds. Science is finding out what is true just as Christian values have always stated. Also, in trying to understand what you are saying, surfsup, it's too much in one mouthful. Also, I think that you're not fully understanding the real meaning of the article and you're over analyzing it. The Blogger is speaking from a more spiritual viewpoint and your reply is a strictly a material one.
beaumontdave August 22, 2013 at 12:36 am
Don gave an anecdotal story to reinforce his assertion that positivity and a loving approach mayRead More extend one's life and/ or improve the quality. Surfs response was that it's a great notion and something we'd all like to be true, but you can't draw a scientific conclusion from nice anecdotes and casual studies inferring a causal relationship. Seems like a perfectly fair response as religion tends to tell stories and then draw conclusions without the hard analysis that science demands and all notions passed off as truth need to pass muster through the gauntlet of evidence and logic. If you asked me do I think Don's assertions are likely true, I'd say yeah, because I want to believe it's so, but to say it's a proven point requires a lot more as Surf demonstrates.
Ken August 22, 2013 at 04:55 pm
All I know is that if you have 5 bucks in your pocket and a 6- pack costs 7 bucks..You're 2 bucksRead More short by anyone's math.**(THINK DEEPLY)
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lynne pope July 29, 2013 at 10:33 am
A good move toward the rainbow food colors- 5 fruit and veg. servings a day. I pack the kids 5 aRead More day, a carrot stick, apple slices, cucumber, colorful salad pepper, and a lettuce leaf in a bag. We have a rule about telling the truth. That it is powerful and makes us feel good about doing the right thing.We are working on living the Golden Rule as well. It might sound corny but Sr citizens and teenagers find it a good start to well being. Loved the article. Less processed food led us to start our own few little things in a garden, Tomato plant, lemon tree, and eggplant.
Don Ingwerson July 29, 2013 at 11:23 am
Lynne, Thank you for your comments and your thoughtful suggestions.
Andre Gamboa August 6, 2013 at 12:45 am
I would love for you to check out my blog if you have the chance! I am 17 years old and i feel thatRead More i have alot of good things to say and write! Help me get my name around! Thanks so much :)
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Lynn Marr July 6, 2013 at 01:42 am
Excellent observations; thanks for your Blog!
ross Yerkes July 6, 2013 at 06:38 pm
As the Bible says: "You reap what you sow." and "There is more happiness in givingRead More than in receiving." Love, kindness and happiness have a wonderful effect on your physical health.
Michele July 9, 2013 at 07:39 pm
It's so true, isn't it? I teach children the same principles. At a recent summer camp I taught, weRead More guided the kids to complete a random act of kindness for "homework" one day. You can't imagine how excited the kids were to share what they chose. Learning early how good it "feels" to show kindness to others will help the next generation support and take care of each other. Thanks for posting this!
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nobody June 24, 2013 at 11:23 am
I totally agree with you lotsahelp. As a woman I can imagine how hard must be to have an abortion, IRead More never was in a situation to have to make that decision, so it would be easy to say "I would never do it" if I were a male it would be even easier. And, again, as a woman I am reluctant to give away ANY right.
Carl Petersen III June 25, 2013 at 07:27 am
lotsahelp June 24, 2013 at 10:27 am "Also- I think if the man wants the child-meaning raise itRead More and take it from a pregnant woman HIS views should count for something..." ____________________________________________________ His views should count in the discussion, but until someone figures out a way to get him to carry the fetus to term, the woman should have the ultimate say. To look at the issue from a different view, if the man says up front that he does not want to start a family, then I do not think that he should be forced to support one if the woman chooses to continue the pregnancy.
lotsahelp June 25, 2013 at 11:56 am
From Carl PT1-"His views should count in the discussion, but until someone figures out a way toRead More get him to carry the fetus to term, the woman should have the ultimate say." _________as a prochoice woman, I say yes! as a woman who has had male friends in this situation I say...it sucks. From Carl PT 2"To look at the issue from a different view, if the man says up front that he does not want to start a family, then I do not think that he should be forced to support one if the woman chooses to continue the pregnancy"__________I completely agree!-it is hypocritical of women to want the total power in this!!!
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not Carl Peterson lll June 13, 2013 at 11:27 pm
Don, "Most men are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." Abraham Lincoln, andRead More Will Rogers. When you combine that with how we project what we think the world is,....well, it is all in our minds. We are products of our sub-conscious. I read the basic early book on it many years ago, "The power of your subconscious mind", by Joseph Murphy. I read the book three time in a row, and began the process of changing my brain pattern to a very positive outlook. In all honesty, I was in the middle of changing things at that time and was ready for the info then. Almost no one changes their actual thought process and types of habits. Some ingrained from infancy, I am still working on. Sometimes I think of the girl who was the inspiration for the movie "homeless to Harvard" She said that all she did was, "everyday there are options, I just decided to do the right one everyday." Also, will smith in the based on a true story,"The pursuit of happiness" He went from homeless to multi-millionaire. Without the state of mind to change, they would have to win the lottery, and those odds are next to zero.
ARIK KATZENBERG June 16, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Once its cooked, marinated, or whatever its lost much of its healthful value. Its just a lowRead More calorie food at that point
D Shelley June 17, 2013 at 06:35 am
Arik, All you have to do is eat a spinach salad or throw a handful in a morning fruit smoothy to getRead More the full benefit. When the growing season is right, I grow some in my backyard and harvest it as needed.